Madrid talks with Catalan leaders 'a very big step forwards'

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Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez and Catalan regional leader Quim Torra talk in Barcelona [File photo: February 6, 2020/Albert Gea/Reuters]

Madrid, Spain – Long-awaited high-profile negotiations between Spain’s central government and Catalonia’s officials over the troubled region’s future finally get underway this afternoon in Madrid, in a bid to break years of deadlock, with regional nationalists adamant that Catalan independence should be included in discussions.

Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez and Catalan regional leader and separatist Quim Torra, each flanked by  small but politically heavy-weight delegations of advisers and ministers, will meet in the PM’s official residence of the Moncloa to get the bridge-building discussions rolling.

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Expectations of an early breakthrough are understandably low given the tumultuous relationship between Spain’s central government and Catalonia in recent years, and with a dozen top Catalan politicians in prison or self-imposed exile following a failed independence bid in 2017 looming large in the background.

In this afternoon’s initial 44-item agenda, increased de-centralisation is up for discussion – but the right to self-determination is not, something which Torra has loudly and repeatedly insisted be changed.

“This isn’t the start of a long road, it’s the start of a very long one – but the important thing is both the nature of the talks and that they are happening at all,” Germá Capdevila, a political analyst with naciodigital.cat told Al Jazeera.

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“Catalonia has recognised that it can’t just act without bearing Spain in mind, and the Spanish government has effectively recognised that Catalonia needs to be talked to as a political entity. Those are both new developments.

“But this is a major political conflict which has been going on for a very long time. Nobody should expect that in a couple of meetings, it all gets resolved. What’s more encouraging is a willingness to negotiate that we’ve never seen before.”


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Sanchez warned the Spanish government on Wednesday morning that “it will be a long, difficult and complex process”. But he insisted that the negotiations represented a break with earlier intransigence towards the Catalan question shown by the previous right-wing government.

“As things stand, and as has happened before, the left-wing forces governing Spain need to count on the country’s political and cultural minorities” –  like the Catalans, Manuel Lopez, professor of history at Spain’s Open University told Al Jazeera.

“If the two sides don’t back each other up at moments like this, they both lose – and other minorities, like the Basque Nationalists, would also lose out as well.”

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The Socialist Party is keen to avoid controversy in the early stages of the talks, as it is keenly aware that as a minority goverment, it needs the ongoing neutrality of the Republican ERC party in parliament. A major test of that neutrality is coming up very shortly: on Thursday, the state budget, unchanged since 2015 because of Spain’s seemingly permanent political instability, is set to be voted through.

After their abstention in early January ended months of caretaker governments, the ERC has insisted that their ongoing neutrality is conditional on the talks on Catalonia taking place, and have yet to guarantee they will abstain on Thursday.

In Catalonia, the start of talks coincides with the build-up to regional elections, with the ERC jostling with the Junts per Catalunya party – to which Torra belongs – for superiority in the nationalist camp, and potentially boosting a more bullish attitude in the Madrid negotiations.

Spain’s opposition parties have done little to lower the tension by continuing their strong attacks against the Spanish Socialists for allegedly selling out to the nationalists. On Tuesday, Spain’s Minister of Justice Juan Carlos Campo said that jail sentences for sedition – such as those meted out to the imprisoned Catalan leaders – were “unusually long” and an “anomaly”. His comments were greeted with fierce criticism.

Come what may, Professor Lopez is convinced the fact the talks are taking place represents a potentially very significant milestone in the country’s recent political history. Or as he puts it: “That two parties of the calibre of the Socialists and ERC are sitting down and talking like this constitutes a break with the recent past, and a very big step forwards.”


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